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Update(s) and development

Update(s) and development

Postby epsilonion » 15 Oct 2018, 09:57

Hi guys hope your well..

Now that the sun seems to be behind us and the rain and cold weather seems to be upon us what can we expect to see in the coming couple of months for the development side of Skyline?

I know you where working on mesh improvements, new version of physics and at some point the GUI editor getting the second half of development and fixed (to stop the crashes etc) but there seems to have been a slowdown of releases over the summer period, I know that you deserve some time off as we all do when working on a project such as this and family issues and additions (congrats).

I have supported the development of skyline for 3 years now and still believe that it is a gem of a game development platform.
When all the features get back in that Gen 1 had it will be a complete engine, I mean great UI, work flows and such a small learning curve compared to whats out there at the moment.

I can not wait for the GUI editor to get fixed, volumetric clouds and ocean system to come back.

Just looking for a little bit more information on what to expect on the lead up till Christmas..
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby SolarPortal » 15 Oct 2018, 13:07

sure no problem :)

Updates have slowed minorly due to some changes we are making and of course the family addition( ty :) )
Pretty much everything you have wrote is already is dev now.

I havent worked much on the new physics upgrade for a while as we have been working on other bits, same with the mesh optimizations although the merging of submeshes sharing the same material has already been done and ready for the next update.

On the UI note, well, this is secret at the moment.
GUI is still planned in, just trying to find the time to work on it. Plus we have the newer Noesis GUI system to integrate.
Ocean...... There is a high possibility of this being added back in fairly soon, it wont be the same ocean as the previous one was far too sluggish.

Volumetric clouds... this is the one which is probably the slowest to come although we still have the trueskies system to integrate.

The vegetation trees spraying is already in development.
Changes based on the last log are also being worked on and is another reason for the slow update as we change the licensing system to match the new system.

I have supported the development of skyline for 3 years now and still believe that it is a gem of a game development platform.
When all the features get back in that Gen 1 had it will be a complete engine, I mean great UI, work flows and such a small learning curve compared to whats out there at the moment.

Thanks for supporting us, much appreciated. On a project as long as this one, we have to maintain work efficiency which means at times we have to slow down as to not burn out. but as always, we work on skyline everyday for as much as we can.

and yeah, constant rain here now... horrible lol :P
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby epsilonion » 15 Oct 2018, 20:10

Great, cheers for the update, given a clear description of whats going on behind the scenes...

There seems to be a lot of things in active or partially active development at the moment.. :D
can not wait to see some of them implemented :P

Wow just looked at the new gui system it produces some great looking GUI's and UI's..
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby epsilonion » 15 Oct 2018, 22:24

the bug tracker has had a update guys.

Main Changes:

PHP 7.2 compatible
better password hashes using password_hash()
also Google reCaptcha configurable
a new basic checks tab in admin area
more fields chooseable in admin editallusers view
last_login field in user table
and small bugfixes.
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby epsilonion » 20 Oct 2018, 13:41

When do you think the next update will be guys?
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby SolarPortal » 20 Oct 2018, 14:11

a week or more at the mo, the editor changes are taking some time and am working hard on them as we speak :)
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby monkeyfrogstudio » 21 Oct 2018, 12:27

Awesome! I'm new here, but am looking forward to the update.
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby SolarPortal » 21 Oct 2018, 14:01

Hi and welcome @monkeyfrogstudio :) We hope you enjoy skyline :)
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby monkeyfrogstudio » 21 Oct 2018, 14:56

Thank you for the welcome. I am waiting for the new release before diving in too deeply. :)
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby SolarPortal » 21 Oct 2018, 15:02

Yes, the next update will feature a major UI overhaul, so its worth waiting for! :)
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby epsilonion » 21 Oct 2018, 17:38

Welcome @monkeyfrogstudio to the community, we are transitioning back to the forum from Discord at the moment so it might be quite in here for a while.. :P

Having the dev's on discord every time there where in the studio was causing to many issues with the development time scale as everyone wanted one to one help so it was canned finding the forum was a better solution..
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby monkeyfrogstudio » 22 Oct 2018, 03:35

No worries. I like forums because it's easier to look up information. A lot of times questions are already answered. Searching a forum can keep someone from contacting the devs if the question has already been answered.

Having said that, Discord is good for immediate responses ... if there is a large enough community. ;)
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby StarFire » 22 Oct 2018, 13:41

Hi @monkeyfrogstudio and welcome :D

We will revisit the discord server once there is a larger community, but you can not beat the reference you gain from years of questions and answers on the forums ;)
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby monkeyfrogstudio » 22 Oct 2018, 15:58

Thanks for the welcome!

Yep. I've been around the block, so to speak. Been on the internet since there were BBs and not forums, etc. I much prefer forums. But that's me. ;)

In any case, can't wait to see what you do with the next release of Skyline!
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby epsilonion » 22 Oct 2018, 20:48

lol I used to run a BBS...
used RA (Remote Access) as the platform... god I miss them days.. lol
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby SolarPortal » 26 Oct 2018, 15:22

Just a quick update. We are polishing off the editors new interface now and have just finished on the Asset manager which now takes nice thumbnaIls of materials and meshes again rather than black ambience and black background. So getting there.

Whens the next update.. We should know more by the end of next week. This one is taking longer as we have to ensure every editor looks and works correctly.
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby monkeyfrogstudio » 26 Oct 2018, 15:54

Thanks for the update. I'm looking forward to it. I'm anxious, but would rather wait if it means a better product. :)
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby SolarPortal » 26 Oct 2018, 15:57

It feels much smoother and looks a lot nicer... :P

Images could start being shown soon :)
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby Sage1969 » 27 Oct 2018, 03:51

Hey guys,

Looking forward to the coming update and UI overhaul!

Depending on your definition of patience I am "patiently" waiting. :lol:

I'm sure it is going to be good.

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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby SolarPortal » 27 Oct 2018, 14:29

@sage, haha.. yes, it is coming along, we are just taking the right amount of time needed to do the job properly and it is a big one to change every editors bits, but all i can say is that it is coming along nicely and we are making good progress. :P
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby epsilonion » 27 Oct 2018, 21:25

Just a thought..

Is there a time scale on the Noesis GUI system integration and the tree spraying? by Christmas maybe?
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby StarFire » 27 Oct 2018, 22:12

I dont expect to see them before xmas especially the new gui tools. Maybe in with a slight chance of tree spraying but the Editor UI needs completed first.
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby SolarPortal » 29 Oct 2018, 14:54

forgot to mention that the GUI fixes and what additions i can make in the time are also being done in this editor redesign :)
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby monkeyfrogstudio » 31 Oct 2018, 06:45

Sorry for being a bother, but do you have any new information on approximately when the next release will be? I ask because as soon as that hits, I plan to purchase a license. Thanks.
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Re: Update(s) and development

Postby SolarPortal » 31 Oct 2018, 13:57

Currently, we do not have a set date, but hopefully within the next couple weeks.
There are about 4 main editors left that we need to polish and finish upgrading. The script editor has just been completed with a new dark and light themed code lexer and upgraded snippets where users can make their own plus fixes with the find and options.
Next is GUI editor and mesh editor, then the visual module editor, weapons editor and grass system plugin.
Then a final polish of removing unnecessary menu items or functions to make sure what is there does something :)

i am sure after release, there will also be a little more work.

If we can release sooner then we will :)
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